they are foscam FI8918 W since I posted I have 1 working perfectly both in a browser and icam. the problem is how to set up the other one as they both have the same URL. the internal urls are different , 10.0.0.3 and 10.0.0.9 , but those aren't acceptable for viewing remotely, any help? amazon is selling two packs so this must have come up. I know I'm missing something simple like assigning ips or ports?